It's not Christmastime anymore, but it's also not yet Season 3 of the Whales are Whales Pod-Cast. Confused? So are Cameron and Abgail, the heroes trapped between realities in a desperate fight to find meaning in this void we call Season 2, Episode Cameron and Abigail. They also have a nice little conversation. How quaint!

Our theme music is The Olive Gang by coda.