Two quick notes before we start! Ben is on satellite internet, which means there was a weird audio delay in our speech! Sorry if it sounds like we’re talking over each other, it was laggy for us too. And secondly, Ben is on the show… which means there is cursing, and I didn’t want to edit it out.

Cameron and Ben join forces once again to have riveting discussions about their general health, being bachelors, having kids, and a LOT more health discussion actually wow they really go hard on talking about what is wrong with them, what are they, OLD lol yes. yes we are old. Thanks.

Edited by Cameron. Our theme music is The Olive Gang by coda.